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Post by carcinoGeneticist on Sept 9, 2010 22:24:07 GMT -5
I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT SYSTEM WE USE, JUST SO LONG AS IT'S NOT BASED ON BLOOD COLOR. SERIOUSLY, IT'S JUST FUCKING STUPID.
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 22:29:22 GMT -5
"im not saieing there is something wrong with being equals, i just dont think a lack of a clear leader can end in aniething but chaos".
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Post by emientbedlam on Sept 9, 2010 22:34:05 GMT -5
why do we need a leader?? i like the idea of one troll one vote in a way that everybody holds the same amount of power as everybody else so whether your sea dweller high blood or some kind of mutant it would all be equal!!
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Post by ap0calypsearisen on Sept 9, 2010 22:36:14 GMT -5
i like representative g0vernments the wayward vagab0nd t0ld me ab0ut them
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Post by macabrekiller on Sept 9, 2010 22:40:20 GMT -5
iiits possiiible to+++o haaave a cleeear leeeader whiiile eveeeryone iiis equaaal, the leeeader caaan beee eleeected wiiith teeerms aaand suuuch.
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 22:50:16 GMT -5
i like representative g0vernments the wayward vagab0nd t0ld me ab0ut them "so what eiou mean like a member of each blood color in a councel time thing? or am i compleatlie misreading that"?
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Post by emientbedlam on Sept 9, 2010 22:51:28 GMT -5
i dont see why blood color even matters..
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Post by arseniccatnip on Sept 9, 2010 22:54:55 GMT -5
:33 < what do we even n33d leaders for? all trolls live together for the most part unless you mean like a leader for the trolls on land and the trolls in the sea? we have plenty of resources so we dont n33d anyone in charge of that and besides the whole blood thing trolls dont really fight with each other so its not like we have to have some sort of troll in charge to tell anybody to stop!!
:33 < i think if we just dismissed this system we could rid ourselves of a lot of purrblems! how about we just give it a chance huh? if it gets out of control somehow then well stop and reconsider gosh!!
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 22:58:01 GMT -5
"however if we do a colour-biased council, i think it would at least be a call-back to troll culture of old, showing that once upon a time the colour of eiour blood determined how much power over others eiou had, and at the same time showing that purplebloods can work on equal terms with redbloods, and thus succeeding were our ancestors failed".
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 23:01:54 GMT -5
:33 < what do we even n33d leaders for? all trolls live together for the most part unless you mean like a leader for the trolls on land and the trolls in the sea? we have plenty of resources so we dont n33d anyone in charge of that and besides the whole blood thing trolls dont really fight with each other so its not like we have to have some sort of troll in charge to tell anybody to stop!! :33 < i think if we just dismissed this system we could rid ourselves of a lot of purrblems! how about we just give it a chance huh? if it gets out of control somehow then well stop and reconsider gosh!! "i am referring to a leader for big decisions, like saie three of eiour friends were scouting out the new planet, and are currentlie three daies late on their return. someone needs to decide whether or not to risk more lives in sending a search partie, fortifieing our defences incase there prove to be hostile lifeforms that now know of us, or simplie waiting and hoping for their return". "whether or not the leader who makes that choice will be one singular or a counsel remains to be seen".
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Post by arseniccatnip on Sept 9, 2010 23:04:14 GMT -5
"however if we do a colour-biased council, i think it would at least be a call-back to troll culture of old, showing that once upon a time the colour of eiour blood determined how much power over others eiou had, and at the same time showing that purplebloods can work on equal terms with redbloods, and thus succeeding were our ancestors failed". :33 < what you just said is a paradox? :33 < you want a system that puts you higher above other trolls just to work alongside them? so basically you just want a system that lets you say oh hey looks im better XPP XOO < thats so selfish!! do you read what youre writing because seriously its so silly!!!!! if you truly didnt hate red bloods you wouldnt be ashamed to be on the same level as them aka equals!
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Post by emientbedlam on Sept 9, 2010 23:05:09 GMT -5
:33 < what do we even n33d leaders for? all trolls live together for the most part unless you mean like a leader for the trolls on land and the trolls in the sea? we have plenty of resources so we dont n33d anyone in charge of that and besides the whole blood thing trolls dont really fight with each other so its not like we have to have some sort of troll in charge to tell anybody to stop!! :33 < i think if we just dismissed this system we could rid ourselves of a lot of purrblems! how about we just give it a chance huh? if it gets out of control somehow then well stop and reconsider gosh!! "i am referring to a leader for big decisions, like saie three of eiour friends were scouting out the new planet, and are currentlie three daies late on their return. someone needs to decide whether or not to risk more lives in sending a search partie, fortifieing our defences incase there prove to be hostile lifeforms that now know of us, or simplie waiting and hoping for their return". "whether or not the leader who makes that choice will be one singular or a counsel remains to be seen". why would you even have a leader there?? those who want one option will more then likely go off and do that option anyway.. if you really need to limit people just give everybody a vote not just some weird leaders!!
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Post by macabrekiller on Sept 9, 2010 23:06:27 GMT -5
weeell a go+++od leeeader caaan so+++olve dispuuutes aaand keeep thiiings organiiized. kiiind o+++of liiike a...suuuper auspistiiice of so+++orts??? iiits generaaally a go+++od ideeea to haaave a leeeader who+++o wo+++ould beee suiteeed fo+++or thaaat so+++ort o+++of thiiing, keeepiiing uuus fro+++om tuuurning o+++on eaaach otheeer fo+++or peeetty reaaasons.
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Post by arseniccatnip on Sept 9, 2010 23:12:52 GMT -5
:33 < wait leaders based on romances??? you cant be an auspistice for so many trolls!! think of how much trouble that would be oh my gosh! :33 < i totally agr33 what with john is saying!! everyone will be happy in the end! if you guys are really so despurrate for a leader just go cling on to one of your friends or something! it just shows how good you are at living your own life XPP
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 23:13:23 GMT -5
:33 < what you just said is a paradox? :33 < you want a system that puts you higher above other trolls just to work alongside them? so basically you just want a system that lets you say oh hey looks im better XPP XOO < thats so selfish!! do you read what youre writing because seriously its so silly!!!!! if you truly didnt hate red bloods you wouldnt be ashamed to be on the same level as them aka equals! "okaie ive been staring at an automated firing mechanism while inside the barrel of a giant gun for the past few hours, mie apologies if i seem a little confused". "i am also trieing to change mie opinions biased on what the rest of eiou are saieing, manie of eiou are saieing we should be equals, so i have dropped mie opinion saieing we should keep a small connection to the caste sistem, and picked up the opinion that a clear leader of anie blood colour would be preferable to none at all". "i am referring to a leader for big decisions, like saie three of eiour friends were scouting out the new planet, and are currentlie three daies late on their return. someone needs to decide whether or not to risk more lives in sending a search partie, fortifieing our defences incase there prove to be hostile lifeforms that now know of us, or simplie waiting and hoping for their return". "whether or not the leader who makes that choice will be one singular or a counsel remains to be seen". why would you even have a leader there?? those who want one option will more then likely go off and do that option anyway.. if you really need to limit people just give everybody a vote not just some weird leaders!! "sometimes eiou need to sacrifice the few to protect the manie, if there was no leader in that scenario, then half the group would wander off to do their own thing, while the other half tried futilelie to reconstruct societie. it would be total and utter chaos"!
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Post by emientbedlam on Sept 9, 2010 23:13:26 GMT -5
weeell a go+++od leeeader caaan so+++olve dispuuutes aaand keeep thiiings organiiized. kiiind o+++of liiike a...suuuper auspistiiice of so+++orts??? iiits generaaally a go+++od ideeea to haaave a leeeader who+++o wo+++ould beee suiteeed fo+++or thaaat so+++ort o+++of thiiing, keeepiiing uuus fro+++om tuuurning o+++on eaaach otheeer fo+++or peeetty reaaasons. yeah but in that kind of case then you have asking everybody what they want!! why would you need some guy telling you what to do?? it seems incredibly silly to me!!
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Post by arseniccatnip on Sept 9, 2010 23:19:22 GMT -5
:33 < theres going to be chaos regardless of whether or not theres a leader. do you seriously think that just because theres someone telling everyone else what to do that were gonna listen? if you honestly dont expect anyone to rebel just because you have some fancy government then im sorry but youre sadly mistaken
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Post by emientbedlam on Sept 9, 2010 23:21:04 GMT -5
:33 < theres going to be chaos regardless of whether or not theres a leader. do you seriously think that just because theres someone telling everyone else what to do that were gonna listen? if you honestly dont expect anyone to rebel just because you have some fancy government then im sorry but youre sadly mistaken yeah!! i mean if someone told me to abandon my friends so some people i never met could live?? i totally wouldnt do that!!
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Post by PaternalTomcat on Sept 9, 2010 23:23:27 GMT -5
weeell a go+++od leeeader caaan so+++olve dispuuutes aaand keeep thiiings organiiized. kiiind o+++of liiike a...suuuper auspistiiice of so+++orts??? iiits generaaally a go+++od ideeea to haaave a leeeader who+++o wo+++ould beee suiteeed fo+++or thaaat so+++ort o+++of thiiing, keeepiiing uuus fro+++om tuuurning o+++on eaaach otheeer fo+++or peeetty reaaasons. yeah but in that kind of case then you have asking everybody what they want!! why would you need some guy telling you what to do?? it seems incredibly silly to me!! "okaie so lets saie eiou have the bunch of us all on some new planet we know nothing about. and we have no leader". "what we would need to do is organize into groups, one to build shelters, oen to search for food and water, one to build weapons incase of emergencie, but with no leader, what do eiou think will happen"? "one or two trolls will wander off looking for food in totallie opposite directions, having no idea were to come back to bringing back verie little food if anie if theie actuallie managed to find the base again, another one or two would trie to build shelter, at least five would sit around panicking and/or being lazie, and at least two of us would spend the whole time eilling at one another and complaining about how hungrie theie are"
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Post by arseniccatnip on Sept 9, 2010 23:25:06 GMT -5
:33 < theres going to be chaos regardless of whether or not theres a leader. do you seriously think that just because theres someone telling everyone else what to do that were gonna listen? if you honestly dont expect anyone to rebel just because you have some fancy government then im sorry but youre sadly mistaken yeah!! i mean if someone told me to abandon my friends so some people i never met could live?? i totally wouldnt do that!! :33 < yes exactly!!!!! pt would you seriously put all your trust into some stupid leader or leaders?? what if they told you to do something ridiculous like look at the sun? what if they played themselves off all innocent then used the position to take control of all the others via mind control or something! this leader thing is not a good idea bluh
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